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1. The transistor in circuit (Fig 31F), resistor R has a resistance of 150k(ohms), RL has a resistance of 750k(ohms), and the direct current gain is 80.
Assume that there is negligible potential difference between the base and emitter, calculate :
a) the base current Ib
b) the potential difference between the collector and emitter.
Ib=V/R=9/150000=6*10^-5A
then
Ic=6*10^-5*80=4.8*10-3A
Vce=9-4.8*10-3A*750000=-3591V. this is where my problem is
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I am a bit rusty on this topic, but what happens i guess is that the transistor goes into saturation . In this condition the CE vltage is very low even lower than the BE voltage of ~ 0.6V.
I may be wrong, but if the gain is such that the collector current can achieve a value greater than 9 / 750 k, then the device goes into saturation.
When we have a resistor and an active device in series with it , The active device often decides what happens. E.g. if we connect a variable voltage source to a 1k resistor in series with a diode (with its cathode connected to the ground and anode to 1K) and slowly increase the voltage, then, initially the diode is off thus representing a hi resistance and most of the voltage will be across it. Once it conducts howver, the situation gets reversed.
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Ic cannot be greater then
Ic <= 9V / 750 kOm = 1,2 10^-5 A.
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Ic cannot be greater then
Ic <= 9V / 750 kOm = 1,2 10^-5 A.
That's what i thought, but my calculations don't say it. Well, I've done something wrong somewhere.
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That's what i thought, but my calculations don't say it. Well, I've done something wrong somewhere.
In the fixed biased transistor amplifier circuit, Rb should be always greater than R(L)

Probably Rb = 150kohm and RL = 7.5 kohm.
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ok i changed the values of R and RL around, but still get a -ve answer for the voltage, -135V.
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ok i changed the values of R and RL around, but still get a -ve answer for the voltage, -135V.
What I mean is that the given values of resistances are not correct.

Suppose Ic is 1 mA. V(CE ) = 9V - 7.5V = 1.5V

IB = (1/80) mA So Rb = 9/(1/80) = 720 kohm.

The above example gives the range of Rc and Rb.
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1. The transistor in circuit (Fig 31F), resistor R has a resistance of 150k(ohms), RL has a resistance of 750k(ohms), and the direct current gain is 80.
Assume that there is negligible potential difference between the base and emitter, calculate :
a) the base current Ib
b) the potential difference between the collector and emitter.
Ib=V/R=9/150000=6*10^-5A
then
Ic=6*10^-5*80=4.8*10-3A
Vce=9-4.8*10-3A*750000=-3591V. this is where my problem is
I have just gone through and done the calculations assuming you were correct and were wrong and swapped the values of the resistors. You definitely have a wrong resistance value somewhere. When you get a drop across RL that is larger than 9 volts, then something is wrong, because the 9 volts applied is the only place a voltage comes from. So some of it must be across RL and the rest across the transistor from the collector with respect to the emitter.

Are you sure RL is 720 kOhms and not simply 720 Ohms. If it were 720 Ohms would get a Vce of 5.544 V which makes far more sense. Your base resistance has to be much larger or the collector resistor must be much smaller for the circuit to be analyzed to yield reasonable results.

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oops! my bad, its R=150kohms, and RL=750ohms. So my problem is solved! thanks!
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The voltage across the 2200uF cap can't change instantaneously, so there will be an RC ramp-up of the voltage across it until the voltage gets high enough to start to turn on the transistor through the 50k resistor. At that point, some of the RC charging current gets diverted over to the base of the transistor, so the RC charging time constant changes (slows down). The circuit will stabilize at a point where some current is flowing into the transistor base, and some collector current is being pulled down through the load.
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Transistor problem due to voltage drop? What in the hell are you talking about. People no longer deal with electrical problems? What in the hell is an electric server and what does it have to do with properly biasing a BJT?

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